100,000! Celebration!

Wow.  In less than a year, with no advertising beyond tags and wordpress keywords, we’ve crossed the 100K mark.  For any blog to do this is pretty cool, and for one as small as ours, even moreso!  

Here’s a toast to the past 100,000 visitations we have experienced, and to however many more this ol’ blog might have in her.  It might be 10, it might be 10,000, it might 100,000!  A toast!

Actually, that’s two.  But what the heck – we hit 100,000!

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39 thoughts on “100,000! Celebration!

  1. On tonight’s broadcast, James said “you can’t pick and choose what parts of the law you are going to obey.”

    Romans 16:16
    I Corinthians 16.20
    II Corinthians 13.12
    I Thessalonians 5.26
    I Peter 5.14

    Don’t the hyperconservative churches of Christ pick and choose not to obey these passages?

    Any other examples, folks?

  2. A caller asked with regards to the “one cup” and “multiple cup” Lord’s Supper issue:

    “Is that enough for one group within the church of Christ to not associate with the other?”

    James answers, “I don’t know. I’m going to say that the majority of church of Christ do not use one cup.”

    Church of Christ people – James sidestepped this question – but anyone care to tell the facts on what the issue of “one cup” and “multiple cups” has done to the church of Christ?

  3. 1 Cor 15:29 while not spelled out as a command the practice of other people being baptized for the dead is not corrected by anyone that I can find in the scriptures!

    Romans 14 pretty much in total!

  4. Hey I just realized something this morning, how is it that James can use the old testament to lock down what a prophet’s abilities to be perfect are but there is no menction of it in the new testament as being a requirement?

    Secondly if James found a false Prophet why did he not execute him as in Deu 18:20 since he was judging him based on the old testament rules?

    Third how is it they the Holy Kiss is ignored?

    Finally how can a woman lead Israel in Judges 4 and yet Paul proclaim what he does about women? If Paul’s comments are not seen as a localized thing based on the fact that women in that era were property and uneducated how is it that the Holy Kiss is seen as a local custom?

  5. Multiple cuppers and one cuppers will not commune with each other at the Lords Supper…..church of Christ are not “walking together” on this issue. ( Let there be no divisions among you ) but honestly, does it really matter, seeing the focus is on Christ and not on how many cups

  6. Multiple cuppers and one cuppers will not commune with each other at the Lords Supper…..church of Christ are not “walking together” on this issue. ( Let there be no divisions among you ) but honestly, does it really matter, seeing the focus is on Christ and not on how many cups

  7. It matters if you say you have a doctrine that brings unity and are making a false claim. its called a lie!

  8. WIL, I dont think its a lie, just people reading and drawing diff takes on scripture. I dont think its a sin to use one cup or more…but the sin is when we divide and split over this and claim our take on this is the pattern. What is even crazier is we still will call each other brethern in “word” but in “deed” we will not commune with each other……sad. There are many more issues too that have split up the churches of Christ, but we arent like yall denominational folk 🙂 When yall split up, it proves you are not in unity – when we split up, we are still brethern….just diff views…..

    note: I am making light of a serious problem in the churches of Christ. We are fast to point out everyones disunity while hiding our own and it makes me sick that we act this way….when we are just as divided.

  9. Some churches of Christ teach that one can not take up an offering on any other day but Sunday and some do not take this view…just another issue that has divided the churches of Christ

  10. When you believe you have unity when the elephant that stares you in the face is hidden using defellowship, you are living in a lie.

    The truth needs to be grasp first before anything else can happen, as long as the CoC believes they are teaching a doctrine that brings unity but at the same time break fellowship over and over again they are living a lie, period end of sentence.

    Honest grasp of that truth can only bring freedom, until that illusion is dealt with the cycle will continue over and over.

    I read over and over prove it and show me scripture to back it up and some provide things but are ignored and I see where they are the only unified people of God according to them yet the facts prove otherwise, how am I to believe anything that is true when they will not see the false life they are really living?????

    Go wash the feet of the existing believers first and regain brothers then show me your doctrine that brings unity!

    In other words prove it! Show me your fruits! Paul talks about living with each others faults but I don’t see that doctrine being taught in CoC teachings nor in any other denominational group, who left out that part of the Bible and said it was ok to do? Is that part of the righteous judgment again that allows me as the CoC to break God’s hates as long as I can advance the cause of the doctrine while calling all others failures to light in a gleeful manor thanking them for their sinful ways, thus celebrating the fall of another as my gain? Is that the doctrine that brings unity??? Where is my celebratory attitude authorized over the the fall of another??????????? Where is the warning of the millstone that JESUS spoke of that was better hung around our necks then we cause another little one to fall??????? Was Jesus only talking about children or was he really talking about those who believe in him?

    In putting on the righteousness of our works where did we lose the fear of the Lord? We can declare another unsaved based on our doctrine and ignore the clear teachings that Jesus gave against hypocritical judgments while each of us follow only part of the truth but ignore it when it is shown to us? Is that the doctrine that brings unity?

    I read places where the new commands were violated to remove stumbling blocks from others to advance the cause of Christ, where is that doctrine in the doctrine that brings unity? If it were there then one cup or many cups would not matter because it would be lived with by others to bring unity because we were asked to not force others to do things they see as wrong according to Romans! Yet we also are not to allow others to judge us for what we see as right by the word!

    Where is that attitude that brings freedom and not slavery? Romans 14: 5One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.

    Yet we condemn those who see Saturday as the proper day to worship while they do the same to us, where is that authorized based on Romans? And if Romans says that it says how do we see it as ok to judge them or they us?

    Romans 14:6He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone.

    None of us lives to himself alone yet that’s what we do by breaking ties with all others who live differently! And by breaking those ties we break the ties to God! If we love God and hate our neighbor we do not love God, it is clear!

    Romans 15:1We who are strong ought to bear with the failings of the weak and not to please ourselves.

    Has been converted to We who are strong should force our beliefs on all others to remove their failings as we see it, how is that truth?

    Romans 15:2Each of us should please his neighbor for his good, to build him up.

    How are we following this at all, any of us? Instead we have this continuing struggle that started with Paul and Barnabas and has continued in various forms from that day till now usually involving letter of the law verses grace and we kill each other in God’s name because we are right, yet 15:2 says we are all wrong!

    Romans 15:4For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

    Everything old and new testament is written for us, yet we order from it as a menu of what we want and like so that we can make God in our image, all do it everyone! Then we dress it up in religious text so it sounds sweet and choke our brothers with it!

    Romans 15:5May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give you a spirit of unity among yourselves as you follow Christ Jesus, 6so that with one heart and mouth you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    The above words echo into the night, unheard and unread by the body, we are blinded by worship of doctrine that brings unity only to us.

    Based on my reading Christianity as it is practiced in all its forms is a false doctrine!

  11. what a bunch of nuts!

    although a can of mixed nuts can be quite tasty.
    so much unity in a can………………..
    lee

  12. Amen, WIL-you are SPOT ON.

    I wish I could add more to the discussion tonight, but I am exhausted-but just wanted to say that all you have said is absolutely true and needs to be looked at very honestly.

  13. Note that I am not suggesting we do as we please and call it “worship” – I am just saying we all miss the mark of perfection. Nor am I saying the bible can be understood in many ways – we just sometimes miss the meaning. I guess the big question is: what if we fail to grasp doctrines and teachings? Or, what if we hear doctrines and teachings and refuse to understand them? At what point can we “agree to disagree” …where does this stop? Are there doctrines we must all agree on ? Who says which doctrine out weigh other doctrines?

  14. “Nor am I saying the bible can be understood in many ways”

    Of course the Bible can be understood in many ways. It’s inevitable. Think about it at its most basic level…

    Original context to modern persepective – we can study history and culture and work as hard as we can to understand how the book was written and originally understood, but we still can’t help but look at them through our 21st century eyes.

    Not to mention what we bring to the table depending upon our present context.

    That’s part of the problem that I have with this “my way or the highway” approach that the hypercons bring to the table.

  15. There’s nothing to unpack “Nathan” ( or is it )

    Nathan, we have discussed this before, so I’m not sure what you are trying to pull out of me.

    You stated last year that you were in hiding due to “underground Christian work” in another Country, which is why you couldn’t use your real name. Now you are supposedly close by with a new job….so why not use your real name? How about unpacking that one? I have emailed you several times and others regarding this site …and if Truth, WIL, Lee, and others wish to fall for this, so be it……………tell Joey Hello.

    If your name is Bob Flemings, why not say so… you used that name with this site when emailing JP. And what luck it was to just happen to land upon Shawn “Health” in Texas…one of Johnny’s supporters….Maybe its just luck of the draw that a church of Christ church in Texas has an elder with the same name ( Bob Flemings ) I seen first hand James using these very tactics…and boasting in church about it………..again, tell Joey Hello

  16. There’s nothing to unpack? You said Scripture has one meaning, and there’s nothing to unpack? You know where I’m going with this, Randy.

    Who gets to decide that “one meaning”?

    That is what I’m getting at – b/c the hypercons seem to think that their “one meaning” is the only and true meaning – and they tend to ignore the historical or cultural implications of the Scripture passages except when it suits them (as in the Holy Kiss. By the way, what are they so bothered by with that command? Is there a halitosis problem in the churches of Christ?).

    As to “agree to disagree” – that is a foreign expression to the hypercons we know.

  17. Corey has this ( Holy Kiss ) on a new post on his site, maybe you can go there and ask him. Ok, I knew where you were headed, far as saying “who gets to decide the one meaning”. Can we have more than one meaning far as Christ work on the cross goes or his deity?? Who made that decision for you ??

  18. And now we come back to the issue of agreeing to disagree. On the one side, you have the various Christians from different backgrounds who have agreed that there are lines to be drawn in the sand, and that those lines revolve around Jesus – who He was and is, and what the work He did on the cross. There is grace to be found behind that line – and a healthy understanding that perfect Bible interpretation is probably not likely this side of eternity.

    On the other side, you have folks like the hypercons, whose line is every single point of doctrine, and if you disagree with any small jot or tittle, you aren’t allowed to cross the line. So, if you don’t subscribe to their limited interpretation of – say – frequency or mode of or liquid used in the Lord’s Supper, you are lost.

    It must drive the hypercons batty – knowing that behind that other line Christians from all different Christian traditions stand shoulder to shoulder understanding that agreeing to disagree isn’t hypocritical or dishonest. In fact, it’s just the opposite – it’s the picture of humility – recognizing that we are finite, limited beings trying to understand an infinite, limitless God and knowing our limitations.

    And knowing that we aren’t the point anyway – Jesus is.

  19. I understand what youre saying Nathan, but this also open the doors for “anything goes”. That’s why you have people being led around on church floors with dog leases in Florida churches howling, barking, and making animal sounds….because they see no guidelines ….do you “agree to disagree” or is this sin?

  20. Not bad, considering you have not really posted anything since your August 29th post.

    Congrats my friend. Now post something to stir up some dialogue.

  21. Funny I would conclude that Paul and Barnabas separation after their disagreement was agreeing to disagree in action!

    I wonder if they both need to be defellowshiped? 😉

  22. Manzi –

    I know, isn’t that interesting? But the conversations have been continuous, even if they have slowed down recently.

    And the visitors have been streaming in, too. Wonder who they are and what brings them here?

  23. # On October 16, 2008 at 4:26 pm johnny Said:

    Lee where is this demon possessed church u go to?
    I command u not to tell us.
    we can see who controls whom on here.
    I control the boys in the dark room.
    You will not let anyone know where you go.
    now sit down Lee
    # On October 16, 2008 at 4:40 pm johnny Said:

    Lee did you hear me?
    you may roll around and make baby noises but you will not tell where this all happens.

    It is nice to see you all ashamed of your churches

    I am making a commercial as we speak to give everyone a chance to participate in the
    “excellent”
    Php 1:10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ;

    church you read of in the Bible that meets on 120 American Legion blvd in Danville

    man it is so nice to be in Jesus church, the one in the Bible so you don’t have to hide your where abouts

    come on over Lee… we meet just behind the Dutch shopping center

    everyone over here knows where we are

    no secret

    LEE YOU WILL NOT TELL ANYONE WHERE YOU WORSHIP
    FEAR JOHNNY AND HIS CAMERA

    ACT LIKE NATHAN AND HIS SECRET CREW

    DO NOT BE LIKE JESUS

    BE LIKE THOSE WHO CAME FOR HIM UNDER COVER of darkness

    Lu 22:53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

    this is your hour Lee

    Now if you get upset go ahead and call in we got your number
    we will answer u

    James didnt have trouble with you
    he just did not see what point you were trying to make
    we have no problem with one cup people
    they have a problem with us
    you may all drink from one cup if you please but we are not bound by that soooooooooooooo what was the point

    DO NOT TELL WHERE YOUR secret cult meeting place is LEE
    I COMMAND IT
    # On October 16, 2008 at 4:43 pm johnny Said:

    lee said
    why didnt he provide someone to tell all the good people who served him with all they knew to do all their lives? he let them die not knowing any better?

    Jesus said
    2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
    12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    YOU HAVE THE LIGHT LEE
    you just reject it to keep your tradition in the roll around church where baby talk is your proof of being powerful.

    POWERFUL? Scared to tell what church you are in

  24. JR you simply do not understand at all that he nor I would want to place anyone else in a situation where they would be tempted by you to sin, you see it as fear, I see it as love for others who might stumble because of your lack of agape.

  25. If we are just a bunch of inconsequential “little girls” crying in the darkness, it’s pretty surprising that JR gives so much time contributing here, and discussing us with others.

  26. Welcome, Psalm1:1-3. If you (or anyone else) would like to know what Mr. Paden would have to say about this or any other issue, you can contact him at his website.

    He was permabanned from posting on this blog months ago because of behavioral issues and blatant flouting of blog rules.

  27. Sad thing is JR you know that Paul had to deal with people who were at a milk level yet you expect everyone to eat meat right away and if they are not of your body they prove they are not christian when they fail while still being at a milk level.

    It’s just sad really!

    JR said:church you read of in the Bible that meets on 120 American Legion blvd in Danville

    No it doesn’t the church you read about in the bible met in homes or Jewish temples, not with a sign out from that used a greeting term for a name either LOL!

  28. Hey guys,

    It’s been awhile. Just wanted to see what’s been going on over here. I have to admit I have really missed posts like this one.

    “October 16, 2008 at 4:46 pm Johnny Said:”

    I think the entire post pretty much speaks for itself in terms of erratic behavior, but there are some aspects of it that just cannot be ignored.

    “We can see who controls whom on here.
    I control the boys in the dark room.”

    – Um…what? That statement is just disturbing on multiple levels.

    “Church you read of in the Bible that meets on 120 American Legion blvd in Danville”

    – Really? What BCV can I find this name attached to the church?

    “Come on over Lee… we meet just behind the Dutch shopping center”

    – Oh ok. Jesus’ Church is behind the Dutch shopping center. Glad that is cleared up for everyone. I was starting to worry that your post would not reveal anything helpful.

    “POWERFUL? Scared to tell what church you are in”

    – Just a guess here, but he is probably trying to avoid someone showing up Sun. morning with a video camera and harassing families at church. Just a hunch.

    I also saw this:

    “If you (or anyone else) would like to know what Mr. Paden would have to say about this or any other issue, you can contact him at his website.”

    – I suppose this guy is still is still at it too. Someone has got to post the link to his site.

  29. Hey DMH, we’ve missed you!

    Things haven’t changed much around here, as you can tell. Except we’re now apparently being controlled by the commands of JR.

    Can’t… resist… his… control…

  30. I wonder how many church examples there are of Paul laying in wait for the other Christians who believed slightly differently then he did? Oh wait he taught about putting up with others weakness!

    JR I think its funny you go running back to the old testament for learning but you ignore the 7 things God hates like a liberal teacher would!

    Book of Johnny Chapter 1 Verse 1:

    See we can get along as long as we agree on what the bible says, but what that translates to is, as long as you agree with Johnny.

    Holy Kiss JR, when are you going to keep all the commands since all who don’t go to hell?

  31. Good points, WIL. I’ve started a new post to discuss the types of things that were taught tonight on WSGR.

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