Johnny on youtube

Sent to us by Chris Knight.

A brilliant piece of work! My favorite comment was, “Why do they make God so small and themselves so big.” Great job, Chris!

Go visit Chris’s blog at theknightshift.blogspot.com.

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12 thoughts on “Johnny on youtube

  1. There is something mentally and spiritually and logically wrong with this kind of vitriolic foolery.

  2. I have never saw this show and I do not know all the teachings of this preacher. But I do know this man has given scripture or at least he has certainly given accurate info concerning the word of God. Now on the other hand I have read and heard the comments against this man or at least some of them. But none of these comments can be backed up with scriptures. You cannot glorify the father without obeying his will. His will is clear and understandable in the Bible. 2Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
    2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
    3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
    4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

    The only problem I see in this case is people not wanting to endure sound doctrine. And since this mans preaching is not satisfying their ears they upset. Which this man pointed out the same was done to Jesus. Notice that God’s word given by the apostle Paul said reprove, rebuke, and exhort with all longsuffering. If God’s word says this how then is this man wrong.

    And finally the only one the church makes big (and we are supposed to) is God. We do this by obeying God’s will just like Jesus did and has commanded us to. This is how we glorify God. People call it legalism Christ calls it his doctrine which means teachings which are filled with things we must do and things we must not do. And if you don’t follow these rules that are the teachings of Christ you do not have a relationship with Christ. 2Jo 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
    10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
    11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
    For me the person who loves me is the person who will try to warn me of the dangers of missing heaven not one who try’s to hide the wrath of God and allows me to walk into punishment.

  3. John, no one is saying one live as he wishes and disregard the law. What we are saying is that love will obey the law, not obey the law to be loved. Nobody is even hinting that one live in sin and claim to be of Christ. We are saying that one isn’t saved by their ability to obey laws, if so, Christ came in vain. Do you obey every point of the law perfectly – are you without sin – do you obey to stay saved or do you obey because you are saved? And the scriptures you quoted above are out of context with what John was referring to when he said “doctrine of Christ” keep reading and John tells what the doctrine is – there were some denying Christ came in the flesh – this was who John was addressing. If the doctrine of Christ is your ability to fulfill the law perfectly, have you done so, and do you live a sinless life?? Does love fulfill the law or does living by the law perfectly merit ones salvation. Are you saved by law keeping or do you strive to keep the law and commandments because you love Christ and desire to obey him?? Do you need the Mediator Christ sitting in heaven pleading your case or can you live good enough without having Christ ??

  4. I see that we agree on some points but disagree on others. If Christ had not died for our sins than we would not have the opportunity to obey and be saved. So sure God gave Christ out of love John 3:16. But what about our part doesn’t that same verse require us to do something I belive it does it says he that believes. If some one wants to be saved but does not OBEY this command to believe he will not be saved, right or wrong. All I’m stating is that obedience to the commandments of God is nessecary for our salvation. And before I move on let me point out that I did say the commandments of God not man like the pharisees and there traditions this is what Jesus condemned. Jesus never condemned them for keeping Moses law but he condemned them for placing there traditions above God’s law and adding and subtracting from Moses law. Therefore they were making things hard for people when God had not. However the people still had to obey God’s word. Now I agree that we obey God because we love him. But I believe you asked me do I obey because I’m saved or to stay saved and my answer is both. Because I’m saved I am a Christian a follower of Christ. Christ was obedient unto his death on the cross. Thus I must follow his example and do the same if I’m really following Him. So because I’m saved and because I’m a Christian and because God loves me and I him I will obey. But I will also obey so that I do not lose my salvation or miss heaven. And this is certainly taught in the word of God. I can’t enter the Kingdom of heaven if I don’t obey his will. Mattew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Those who do not obey His gospel will be punished. 2Thesselonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
    Some one spoke about pins and needles well Paul said this: 1Co 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
    Phillippians 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
    Jesus tells us to watch and pray lest we fall in to temptation which leads to sin that leads to death.
    Now there are too many scripture to give that will show that we must remain obedient in order to stay saved. But the point is 1John 3:4 says that sin is the trangression of God’s law that means when we disobey God’s commands we sin. There is no way in the word that we can expect to be saved while in sin. I don’t think you are saying this either so this brings us to our next question.
    Do I keep the law perfectly? The answer is obviously no. But back to obedience, part of obeying God’s will is obeying 1John 1:6-9 which says: If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
    7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
    8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
    9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
    10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
    Point is if I want to remain saved I have to continue to walk in the light and when I fall short I have to confess my faults and he will forgive. And that is part of keeping the law of Christ all because of love. So my point was that if we want a relationship with God we have to obey his word. Don’t you understand love. Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments. As a matter of fact the love of God is perfected in that we keep His commandments not because I said so but because He said so.
    1John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments
    4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
    5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
    To know him means to have a relationship with him if you look it up. According to the Bible, not what I think or you think, one can only know him if they keep His commandments. Same for loving him notice
    1John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
    2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
    3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
    Again this is the love of God that we keep his commandments. We can stand around and say we love him all day but if we do not obey his word do we trully love him. This does not require us never to sin or break a commandment as I have already shown you part of his commandments is that if and when we do sin that we do not remain in that sin but confess our faults to him and be cleansed by the blood of Jesus Christ. If we are not cleansed and we die in these sins we will be condemned. So yes I obey the will of God to stay saved that includes asking for forgiveness.
    Now on to the matter of context in 2John 9-11. Doctrine if you look it up means teaching. I think we already made it clear that if we do not abide in the doctrine or teachings of Christ, which includes his commandments, warnings, and many other things including the fact that he came in flesh we cannot have a relationship with the Father nor the Son. 1John 2:4 said he who says they know him but does not keep his commandments, wich means they are not abiding in his doctrine, is a liar and the truth is not in them. Surely the doctrine or teachings of Christ is not limited to what is being taught in 2John 9-11. But if it were I have already given these other scriptures that show that we must obey the commandments of God to abide and his love and to know him.
    Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.
    And so I never said that the doctrine of Christ is to fulfill the law perfectly meaning without sin. But
    to abide in the doctrine of Christ one must not add or subtract but obey His commands like they are, which includes asking for the forgiveness of sins when one falls short. So as I have said before some of this we agree on some we disagree on. We all need Christ to be saved however Christ brought with him the Gospel that is the truth that is the word of God which Christ himself said we must obey if we want to be saved and remain saved.

  5. “We all need Christ to be saved however Christ brought with him the Gospel that is the truth that is the word of God which Christ himself said we must obey if we want to be saved and remain saved.”

    ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?

    Do you REALLY believe that we must obey to REMAIN saved??

    John, the children of Israel had the word of God for thousands of years. It was *supposed* to be all that they needed. All God asked was that they follow His commandments, just as you are suggesting here.

    And they failed. Miserably.

    God could have written them off more than once. He could and *should* have written the whole human race off. Except that He did love us enough to send His Son…

    John, if we were to believe that absolute 100% obedience to every jot and tittle of the Word of God is demanded if we are to keep our salvation, as you are suggesting, then NOBODY could possibly get into Heaven. Jesus said that we would not get out “until you have paid the last penny”.

    Do you know when that is, John? It’s NEVER. Because in matters of obedience to God, we will ALWAYS be in debt of our own accord, and there is no way that we could possibly pay a high enough of a fine to escape His justice.

    If it were not for His grace, and His love for us which that grace comes from, we are all screwed. You, me, everyone.

    I know myself enough to realize that I’m going to keep falling and messing up until the day I die. And there is no way that I could possibly feel remorseful and penitent about ALL of that. I wish I could feel that way, honest. It can’t happen though.

    But that’s okay. I’m fine with that. Because I have enough faith in Christ to know that He is going to continue sanctifying me throughout my entire life, that my growth in Him is not finished yet but that He has enough patience that He won’t abandon me. All the rest of my life, I’m going to keep dying so that He can live even more within me. If things were as you are insisting they be, we would be so paralyzed with fear of God that neither could we live, or could He work to sanctify us at all. We would be too bound up in an endless cycle of following the law, until the law is all that mattered.

    That’s not a Christ of mercy and love at all. That’s… another Christ. And I don’t know of any other way to put it.

    As churchesofchrist wrote above, “…we are saying is that love will obey the law, not obey the law to be loved.” There is nothing we can do that can earn more love or grace from God. All we can do is be amazed at His grace, fall to our knees that He is so merciful to us, and try to follow Him as best we can.

    I’m not worried about whether other people judge that I am inadequate for the Kingdom of Heaven. Because I already *know* that I am inadequate.

    But I also know that His grace will suffice. And that is enough to satisfy me until the day I enter into his Kingdom proper.

    Bottom line: you can’t lose salvation, once you have asked God for His mercy.

    And you can’t earn any more of it, either.

  6. Some how you missed the part where I showed that confessing and asking God for forgiveness is part of obeying God’s commands. Of course we are going to fall short sometimes but that’s were God’s grace and mercy comes in. I totaly agree with that. However you can loose your salvation once you are saved. Just because we can fall short doesn’t give us the right to willfully sin. Hebrews 10:25-31 That would be a very disgraceful thing considering what Jesus did so that we can be free from sin. Surely we know that Paul was saved if so then why does his comment in 1Corinthians 9:27 suggest that he could loose his salvation or as he put it be a cast away. There are so many other warnings in the New Testament about falling away how could one after he has read all these still say that you cannot loose your salvation.
    Salvation is and has always been conditional. God has doen his part and we must do ours. Our part is not earning Salvation wich is a free gift but our part is to accept. We reject it when we do not obey. My friend I am not the judge Jesus Christ made it clear what will judge us. Its not our feelings, our opinions, our thoughts, but Christ said:
    Joh 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
    48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
    49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
    50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
    As it was put before, Christ is our lawyer now, And we need since we do sin some times it is his blood that cleanses us. However he will be our judge in the end. And he will not surprise us with anything new but the word which he has given us to obey will be what will judge us. Thank God that in His word we have a way to be forgiven of our sins.

  7. “If things were as you are insisting they be, we would be so paralyzed with fear of God that neither could we live, or could He work to sanctify us at all. We would be too bound up in an endless cycle of following the law, until the law is all that mattered.”

    well stated Chris !

  8. I see you follow Chris’ word above God’s word but God gives us all a choice so will see at the judgment.

  9. Friend,

    I happened upon your blog today and I have to say, this video is disturbing. I call this the ‘un-grace’ gospel. He’s like a male version of Ingrid. I cannot imagine knowing God’s grace and being so full of ignorance and hatred and self-pity. But isn’t that the point: How can you blame the guy who is the poor martyr, the one everyone is picking on, the guy who is ‘just trying to get the truth out there’? What a pathetic display. It’s no wonder, in all honesty, that so many people are repulsed by Christianity. I’ll stop back.

    jerry

    ps–I am a preacher in a Church of Christ (not a capella). I learned of your blog because I was recently (at another blog) informed that I will eventually end up in damnation because I play guitar in worship on Sundays.

  10. Hey Jerry, its me ( Randy ). You and I have engaged with Scott some on this subject. One thing I am finding is that there are more like minded people out there than I forst thought. To be honest, the men here in our town are a real rare sect within the church of Christ. Most do not act like these men…even Scott is well mannered and he calls himself a hyper con.

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