Johnny, I’d like my $1,000 please.
You see, I do find my church in the Bible. Do a concordance search for “presbytery”. 1 Tim 4:14 – Paul talks about the laying on of hands of the Presbytery – which is from the Greek “presbyterion” – meaning the body of elders, senate or council. The folks who started the “Presbyterian” church were referring to this form of church government.
As to your claim that your church is the only one found in the Bible, and your use of Romans 16:16 to justify it, I hate to tell you this, but Romans 16:16 wasn’t talking about your church any more than it was talking about mine. Paul was referring to a specific group of churches that existed two thousand years ago. Paul wasn’t thinking about you, he was thinking and referring to specific churches that existed at that time. Otherwise, how could he speak for them in sending their greetings?
And before you say that I can look at your practice and see that you are just like the New Testament church, explain why you aren’t obedient to the other part of Romans 16:16, where Paul commands his readers to “salute one another with an holy kiss”.
When I asked James Oldfield about this, he said that they do not…:
“Nor do we wash feet, since both of those were customary greetings and practices of that time.”
Woah, Woah, Woah! Did he just say that this was a “customary” greeting?!? Let’s look at that again.
“Nor do we wash feet, since both of those were customary greetings… customary greetings… customary greetings… customary greetings… customary greetings… and practices of that time.”
Does your Bible read “Salute one another with an customary kiss”? My Bible says it is a “holy” kiss. What does “holy” mean? It means “venerated as or as if sacred”. That sounds pretty special, and something that a group that claims to be the New Testament church should pay special attention to.
Not to mention that the command is given not just once. Not twice. Not three times. But four times. FOUR TIMES!
Rom 16:16: Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you.
1Cr 16:20: All the brethren greet you. Greet ye one another with an holy kiss.
2Cr 13:12: Greet one another with an holy kiss.
1Th 5:26: Greet all the brethren with an holy kiss.
These men say that you are sinning if you don’t take the Lord’s Supper each first day of the week because of an oblique reference in ONE VERSE, and yet they don’t have a problem disobeying Scripture on this one. Why is that? Are they worried about halitosis? BUY SOME TIC TACS, MAN!
So anyway, I’d appreciate it if you’d take my $1,000 and donate it to the Presbyterian Children’s Home of the Highlands if you don’t mind. You can do it in your name.
***note: for those of you not familiar with Johnny Robertson, he is the host of a Church of Christ television broadcast in southern Virginia/Northern North Carolina. And he has offered $1000 to the person in a denomination who is able to find their denomination in the Bible. Of course, I would be fully prepared for Mr. Robertson to rip apart my claim if he only participated in our little blog here. But, apparently, he considers this to be the place of “people who lurk in the shadows”, and that we are only “giggleing little girls” (exact quote – misspelling and all), and so he won’t come here and defend his doctrine even though he knows all about our little corner of the web. Pity! Those kids could use the $1000!***