James Oldfield’s Broadcast, Thurs, November 15

A few points about last night’s broadcast:

1. The “Executive Pastor” of the Cathedral of His Glory didn’t seem to be confused by the issue of authority, but by the fact that James was questioning his church’s use of musical instruments. To me, that just demonstrated a lack of understanding of James’s doctrine.

And is that so unusual?  Most people don’t know know about the whole debate within the Churches of Christ re: use of musical instruments. And yes, there is a debate within the assemblies of the Churches of Christ.

James isn’t much on cutting people slack.

2. James asked the question: why is it wrong to go undercover, and compared his method to 20/20 or Dateline.

Well, the flaw in his reasoning was that those news organizations go undercover to capture people doing things that are illegal. They go after people who are criminal. It was wrong of James to equate the pastors he tries to ambush with criminals. And, his program is a Bible discussion program, not a news organization.

He is right that he tapes it so he can prove what happened.

3. James on the Cathedral’s practice of healing

Now, I can’t answer for the Cathedral James visited, because I don’t go there, and I’m not a part of their congregation or leadership. I will say, however, that I believe that James is incorrect in his claim that God can’t use people to heal.

1Cr 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
1Cr 12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

Here we have two verses that talk about healing as a gift for the people of the church.

Why doesn’t God heal every time we ask? I don’t know. But even Paul was afflicted with some kind of problem (2 Cor 12:7) from which he wasn’t healed. And so, if it can happen to Paul, it can happen to us. The important thing is our response – and Paul’s response was golden:

“And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.” 2 Cor 12:9

Incidentally, my wife’s best friend was healed from Hepatitus C, which if you look it up, Hep C is a disease that normally inflicts a person for the rest of their lives. We believe that God healed her miraculously, because she followed the Biblical example of James 5:14 (do Church of Christ folks do this?), and God healed her. Sola Dei Gloria!

…more to come…

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3 thoughts on “James Oldfield’s Broadcast, Thurs, November 15

  1. They do not follow James 5:14 and will say “this isnt for today” but was something that the early church done. They have their arguments lined up for this one too. The main way they view scripture is through CENI. But when they get to a verse like this… which is a “command” or “example” they drop their hermeneutic and use other hermeneutics……if they follow their so-called CENI hermeneutic to the letter…they know this will get them caught in a trap, so they have many ways work around each and every argument…..the bottom line is they really do not have a “true hermeneutic” …

  2. The hermeneutic known as Command, Example, and Necessary Inference (CENI) contains its own controversies and grey areas, but with a little discretion it can be a quite reasonable way to understand scripture. However, when the examples and inferences are considered binding, and when that is combined with a belief that the Silence of the Scriptures is binding, we have a volatile mix which has frequently resulted in divisions in the church.

    The principle of Silence holds that we must have authorization in the scriptures for every practice of the church. From CENI, that authorization can be in the form of a direct command, an example approved by the apostles, or a necessary inference. Remember that the principle of CENI, as used in the churches of Christ, makes all those commands, examples, and necessary inferences binding. So we are caught in a vise. On one side we are prohibited from doing anything not authorized in scripture. On the other side we are mandated to do everything that is. There is no room for a grey area, no room for differences of opinion. Every practice is either mandatory or prohibited.

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