http://answeringchurchofchrist.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/church-of-christ-doctrine-part-ii/

I’m closing comments down here. This page has grown too large. So, carry on at the new page.

Thanks,
ACOC

I am sure Nathan will not wont this, seeing he hasnt even told his real name. Chris may be willing. I would like us to meet without cameras and recording devices and discuss thee matters.

Anyone else game? How about you Truth? I doubt you will show either. WIL, you seem to have some insight that would be worth your time and ours. Consider meeting with us…Lee, how about you?

I am asking us all “local viewers” to come from behind this site and meet in person and discuss some of these things. You pick the topic guys and lets see if Johnny will meet us somewhere…maybe over lunch or something when he has time.

So, who is game??? Any real players here? Or just bench warmers?

Randy said: I take this to mean you are follwing the “blueprint” or know what it is…

Please provide me with some details from scripture of what the blueprint is…what did the early church ( in the bible ) follow as a blueprint? I know you can answer Jesus. I agree. But did Jesue have any teachings that are part of the blueprint? Seems Paul included some of the blueprint too.

Please note that I am not making a legalistic case here, but if there are patterns, shouldnt we be following them because we desire to please God?

…I didnt use any cut and paste…no ALL caps either…give me a cookie for that

Chris using his little Aprils jokes – boy you guys really liked that one, didnt you? You focus on other things…like mispelled words, caps, and other things…while allowing other things go unckecked.

Ok. Lets talk bible for a while on here. You agree that you are not promoting “anything goes” right?

That statement invites some discussion. If anything doesnt go in church worship, what does? Can one drop Sunday worship and pick Saturdays, would that be ok?

There are patterns in scripture and standards that MUST flow from those claiming to be saved. Please not that I am not saying one uphold patterns as some check list to gain favor with God. But, there are patterns clearly in the bible and denying them would be denying God.

There is patterns for an Elder, right?

Tell you what, why dont you list the patterns you see in the new testament that MUST flow from the saved. Use scripture, please. Fell free to cut and paste them, that wont bother me at all or you can reword them maing them your own.

I have just had a chance to begin reading HISTORY OF BAPTIST by Robert Torbet (3rd edition)
on page 175 it documents that in 2 years 1829-1831 no less than “9580″ Baptist in just Kentucky, left the Baptist church and became associated with the Lord’s people also known as “Christians” “disciples”
This is only rivaled by the defection from the Presbyterian church in the same era.
Davidson in his History of Presbyterian church in Kentucky (1847)pg 215 list that the church of which Alexander Campbell was a member and defender, grew to 150,000 and upwards in 20 years. Davidson further agrees with Torbet and says that “whole churches of both Methodist and Baptist declared that truth was being taught by the “the Reformers” or “restorers” toward NT Christianity. Davidson’s exact words are, ” such was the zeal of the Proclaimers, that they swept like a torrent; whole churches, both of Baptist and Methodist, occasionally declaring for them, and their progress has been onward ever since, swelling in less than twenty years to the number of 150,000 members and upwards.

I am so happy to finally have copies of both these books so as to have proof that the effort we are in can surely produce great results.

I am awaiting the mail to receive my very own copy of Daniel Featley’s book written against the churches of Christ in England. This book is over 350 years old and it contains the evidence that Baptist have been guilty of putting “Baptist church” on any group that existed that practiced immersion. It is my understanding that Featley points out that his opponents taught baptism for the remission of sins. That Featley is known by all and is excepted as a scholar will be clearly evident from his part in the “First Oxford Company”, responsible for the later books of the Old Testament in the King James Bible.

may God help us to have such results in our efforts to evangelize this same area of Virginia

You rebuke Randy for “unethical” behavior and yet you say nothing about the statement made about me. The visit to the “elderly ladies” house was fully documented on tape, I was not at her door nor was I bothering her in anyway. We were door knocking the whole county and sooner or later Kellum’s street would be hit.
why not ask truth to tell what the Kellum group said on air. They planned to get another Rolls Royse. One of their own members told our cameras at the church building that Kellum was excessive. He has two retirements and inheritance and still rides the backs of poor people.
I try and demonstrate the lust for power and wealth that is clear in “unchecked” systems of religion. You on the other hand let people on here slander me and say all kinds of liable toward me.
The Kellum group told on air that they had friends not saved and I had better walk softly. Chris says I painted a bomb on the Danville building. How could he possibly prove that? You let it go unchecked Nathan!
Is that ethics in the presbyterian faith?
Thank you Randy for calling this site what it is!
Dear Nathan and Chris just for a history lesson why dont you look up Calvin the tyrant
“In 1547, a man who left during the sermon and made too much noise about it was imprisoned…”

I moving on to Randy

Hope to see you

I think most of the regular posters would disagree with you, that the Catholic church is the “one true church”. In fact, that is what we are arguing about here with the hyperconservative church of Christ folks – they say that THEIR version of church is the “one true church”. Frankly, we here at ACOC think both views are myopic, misguided, and just flat wrong.

Are there “true” followers of Christ in the hyperconservative churches of Christ? Certainly. Are there “true” followers of Christ in the Catholic church? Of course. And, as we’ve said here before, there are also “true” followers of Christ in the other various branches of the protestant faith. And in the Orthodox traditions.

The “true” church of Christ is bigger than a name on a sign

However, I do ask that you keep in mind that this blog doesn’t exist to debate Catholicism – there are plenty of other blogs and websites that exist out there to do that. So, please keep your discussions on topic. The name of this particular page is “Church of Christ doctrine” – and it relates to the “church of Christ” that comes out of the largely American Restoration movement that occurred in the latter part of the 1800’s.

Meanwhile, if you would like to post a link to a blog or bulletin board that discusses the Catholic church, feel free to do so. But here, let’s stay on the topic at hand.

Thanks!
ACOC

The local “Church of Christ” cult isn’t following the “blueprint” at all.

Why should anyone believe Robertson, Oldfield etc. when they claim to be building a church, but in reality they are digging a latrine?

Randy said: Perhaps there is a blueprint “somewhere”…